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Post by Ottoman Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:19 pm

Mysore,The Arakkal Kingdom and Nawab of Banganapalle plus French East India Company troops as Advisers/Mercs

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Travancore,Hyderabad Deccan, Nawabs of the Carnatic, British East India Company

By the end of Spring of 1774,

The Mysoran army is able to driven out any raids by the Pro British Indians forces. However the Sultan of Mysore is fine with raiding his foes lands for now. As he notes the British are keeping defensive position at Madras. He uses whatever French aid he has to purchase firearms and materials for his plan campaign after the Monsoon season.

Meanwhile Hyderabadi are focus on just waiting for the right opportunity to strike, hoping the British will join them in a potential march against Mysore before Mysore becomes strong enough to mount a invasion of their lands.


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Post by Galveston Bay Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:53 pm

With peace signed, in the Spring of 1774, the British send a fleet under Admiral Graves (with Admiral Hughes as his second) to the Indian Ocean to support British India.

Indian Ocean Fleet (Graves, Hughes)
BB2 Cornwall, Black Prince, Triumph, Emperor, Vanguard, Zealous, Goliath,
FF1 Prince Edward, Poole, Chesterfield, Looe, Fowey, Ludlow Castle,
also sent are 4 regiments of Cavalry from Ireland, which will form the cadre of additional Sepoy Cavalry units.
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Post by Hussam B. Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:08 pm

After Coordinating with the British, the forces in Goa will eventually receive reinforcements

Goa Station (Campos)
4 BB2 (Infante Dom Pedro, Medusa, Golfinho, Princesa da Beira)
4 FF1

2 Infantry Brigades and 2 Cavalry regiments are to be raised to join the Goa garrison as well

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Post by Ottoman Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:52 pm

By the end of 1774,

The frontline static as the Mysore army rebuilds for next year campaign with French arms and training. Meanwhile the British East India company reinforcements arrived in Madras in preparations for next years campaign. While Portugal is sending forces to prepare to join the war against Mysore, which will should be there before the end of the year.

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Post by TLS Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:18 pm

Representatives of the French East India Company issue formal letters of complaint with their counterparts in Madras and Goa upon learning of the massive buildup of forces in the Carnatic. Pursuant to the terms of the Treaty of Brussels, there was to be a status quo antebellum with regards to European territories in India. The escalation in Britain's presence, to include outright participation in a war against France's client states, is both a violation of the spirit and letter of the lately-signed treaty. Portugal's participation in such moves, while clearly not in violation of the Treaty of Brussels as Lisbon was not a signatory, is another unnecessary escalation in conflict.
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Post by Galveston Bay Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:10 pm

TLS wrote:Representatives of the French East India Company issue formal letters of complaint with their counterparts in Madras and Goa upon learning of the massive buildup of forces in the Carnatic. Pursuant to the terms of the Treaty of Brussels, there was to be a status quo antebellum with regards to European territories in India. The escalation in Britain's presence, to include outright participation in a war against France's client states, is both a violation of the spirit and letter of the lately-signed treaty. Portugal's participation in such moves, while clearly not in violation of the Treaty of Brussels as Lisbon was not a signatory, is another unnecessary escalation in conflict.

The British government asks the French government if their client state has asked for peace.  At this point no evidence of that exists. The British East India Company does the same to its French counterparts.
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Post by Kilani Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:23 am

The Spanish, while not having a presence on the Indian continent, likewise add their voice of concern to the British build-up of forces there, which is seen as a rather opportunistic attempt to take advantage of the recently signed peace to expand British holdings in India while no-one is looking.

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Post by Ottoman Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:43 pm

Indian Campaign

Jan-Mar 1775

By the start of January, many armies moving to crush each other in combat. With Mysore dividing its powerful army into two formations one to defend the homeland and one to attack Travancore with the goal of taking it out of the war.

Early January 1775

A Mysore army under the command of Hyder Ali heads south and easy crush the Travancore army without any losses. Which allow Hyder Ali to force Travancore to accept status quo peace with Mysore.
Meanwhile the Anglo-Portuguese-Indians armies were marching South to attack his army and shatter it as soon they received word of his battle with Travancore. Forcing his son Tipu Sultan to act and join his father’s forces to prevent the complete destruction of his army.

The two armies meet at 30 miles north of Bangalore

January 25, 1775

The Battle of Bangalore

The Franco-Mysorean forces had an advantage in artillery, Hyder Ali was eager to use a new weapon Mysorean rockets to cause chaos on his foe’s lines. The Mysorean rockets and French Cannon fire inflict heavy losses on the Carnatic lines(both brigades shatter). The British artillery was also deadly and was able to shatter one of Mysorean Light Infantry brigades. The British allies’ forces were able to inflict heavy losses on the Mysoren lower tech level troops. However, Hyder Ali decides to focus his rocket artillery fire on the Hyderabadi lines, to cause confusion and create a opening for his forces to flank the British/Portuguese lines. A rocket lands near where Nizam Ali Khan was directing his troops, he was heavily wounded (out of action for six months). However, his troops thought he was killed and broke formation in full rout over the confusion over the death of their leader/commander. Leaving the Anglo-Portuguese forces to carry on the fighting, while fighting off a Mysorean attempt to flank their lines.

The battle is brutal one with the Mysoreans with French support were able to hold their line, which inflicting consist losses on their foes. However, they were starting to take heavy losses from Anglo-Portuguese forces attacks which led to 2 Arakkal Light Infantry Brigade being shattered and a supporting regiment was wiped out. But French sepoy sharpshooter manages to shoot form distance and kill the Portuguese commander/Governor of Goa -D. José Pedro da Câmara. Causing the Portuguese to fall back with the loss of their leader. Soon with the Portuguese lines falling apart. Lieutenant-General Sir Eyre Coote decides its best to fight another day and regroup, he orders a tactical withdraw with his troops fighting to cover for slower units to retreat.

For now Mysore has won the battle, but took heavy losses…

Franco-Mysore plus Indian allies forces losses

Banganapalle Army (Commander: Saiyid Husain Ali Khan)
-2 Cavalry Brigades* shattered*

Army of Mysore (Mysore) (Commander: Tipu Sultan)
-2 Light Infantry Regiments (TL 3)* Destroyed*
-2 Light Infantry Brigades (TL 2.5)* Shattered, reduced to regiments*

Nawab's Army (Mysore to Travancore) (Commander: Hyder Ali)
-1 Infantry Brigades (TL 3) reduce to 1 light infantry regiment
-2 Arakkal Light Infantry Brigade(TIL 2.5)*shattered*
-2 Cavalry Brigades (TL 2.5)*shattered*



Portuguese-British-Indian forces losses

British Madras Army under command of Lieutenant-General Sir Eyre Coote
1 Sepoy infantry regiments*destroyed*
1 Sepoy Cavalry regiment*destroyed*
1 British Cavalry regiments*destroyed*

Portuguese army( Goa)- Commander killed in action
2 Light Infantry Regiments*destroyed*

Carnatic forces
1 Infantry brigades tech 2.5- shattered
1 Cavalry brigade tech 2.5-shattered

Hyderabadi force under the command of Nizam Ali Khan(WIA)
1 Infantry regiment tech 3*Destroyed*
2 Infantry brigades tech 2.5* shattered*
1 Cavalry Brigade tech 2.5*shattered*

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Post by Galveston Bay Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:15 pm

The British East India company sends word of the Treaty of Brussels and asks that fighting come to an end with status quo antebellum. If peace cannot be obtained, the Company will use the recently arrived Anglo Portuguese fleet to full effect against Mysore.
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Post by Ottoman Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:22 am

Ottoman wrote:Indian Campaign

Jan-Mar 1775

By the start of January, many armies moving to crush each other in combat. With Mysore dividing its powerful army into two formations one to defend the homeland and one to attack Travancore with the goal of taking it out of the war.

Early January 1775

A Mysore army under the command of Hyder Ali heads south and easy crush the Travancore army without any losses. Which allow Hyder Ali to force Travancore to accept status quo peace with Mysore.
Meanwhile the Anglo-Portuguese-Indians armies were marching South to attack his army and shatter it as soon they received word of his battle with Travancore. Forcing his son Tipu Sultan to act and join his father’s forces to prevent the complete destruction of his army.

The two armies meet at 30 miles north of Bangalore

January 25, 1775

The Battle of Bangalore

The Franco-Mysorean forces had an advantage in artillery, Hyder Ali was eager to use a new weapon Mysorean rockets to cause chaos on his foe’s lines. The Mysorean rockets and French Cannon fire inflict heavy losses on the Carnatic lines(both brigades shatter). The British artillery was also deadly and was able to shatter one of Mysorean Light Infantry brigades. The British allies’ forces were able to inflict heavy losses on the Mysoren lower tech level troops. However, Hyder Ali decides to focus his rocket artillery fire on the Hyderabadi lines, to cause confusion and create a opening for his forces to flank the British/Portuguese lines. A rocket lands near where Nizam Ali Khan was directing his troops, he was heavily wounded (out of action for six months). However, his troops thought he was killed and broke formation in full rout over the confusion over the death of their leader/commander.  Leaving the Anglo-Portuguese forces to carry on the fighting, while fighting off a Mysorean attempt to flank their lines.

The battle is brutal one with the Mysoreans with French support were able to hold their line, which inflicting consist losses on their foes. However, they were starting to take heavy losses from Anglo-Portuguese forces attacks which led to 2  Arakkal Light Infantry Brigade being shattered and a supporting regiment was wiped out. But French sepoy sharpshooter manages to shoot form distance and kill the Portuguese commander/Governor of Goa -D. José Pedro da Câmara. Causing the Portuguese to fall back with the loss of their leader.  Soon with the Portuguese lines falling apart. Lieutenant-General Sir Eyre Coote decides its best to fight another day and regroup, he orders a tactical withdraw with his troops fighting to cover for slower units to retreat.

For now Mysore has won the battle, but took heavy losses…

Franco-Mysore plus Indian allies forces losses

Banganapalle Army (Commander: Saiyid Husain Ali Khan)
-2 Cavalry Brigades* shattered*

Army of Mysore (Mysore) (Commander: Tipu Sultan)
-2 Light Infantry Regiments (TL 3)* Destroyed*
-2 Light Infantry Brigades (TL 2.5)* Shattered, reduced to regiments*

Nawab's Army (Mysore to Travancore) (Commander: Hyder Ali)
-1 Infantry Brigades (TL 3) reduce to 1 light infantry regiment
-2 Arakkal Light Infantry Brigade(TIL 2.5)*shattered*
-2 Cavalry Brigades (TL 2.5)*shattered*



Portuguese-British-Indian forces losses

British Madras Army under command of Lieutenant-General Sir Eyre Coote
1 Sepoy infantry regiments*destroyed*
1 Sepoy Cavalry regiment*destroyed*
1 British Cavalry regiments*destroyed*

Portuguese army( Goa)- Commander killed in action
2 Light Infantry Regiments*destroyed*
2 Infantry Brigades and 2 Cavalry regiments retreat back to Goa awaiting new orders*

Carnatic forces
1 Infantry brigades tech 2.5- shattered
1 Cavalry brigade tech 2.5-shattered

Hyderabadi force under the command of Nizam Ali Khan(WIA)
1 Infantry regiment tech 3*Destroyed*
2 Infantry brigades tech 2.5* shattered*
1 Cavalry Brigade tech 2.5*shattered*

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Post by TLS Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:16 pm

Galveston Bay wrote:The British East India company sends word of the Treaty of Brussels and asks that fighting come to an end with status quo antebellum.   If peace cannot be obtained, the Company will use the recently arrived Anglo Portuguese fleet to full effect against Mysore.  

In light of the devastation caused at the recent Battle of Bangalore, the French East India Company's director on the ground in Pondicherry, Guillaume de Bellecombe, sends notice to the English representatives at Madras that he will intercede on behalf of the French Crown to sway the Sultans of Mysore to the cause of peace. Neither the various Europeans nor the Indian princes are served by the continuation of war and bloodshed.
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Post by Ottoman Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:53 pm

by late March of 1775, the Sultan of Mysore and his allies agree to end the war and accept the terms of status quo peace.

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